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Time Cube: A Gene Ray Interview | 8 comments (8 topical, 0 editorial, 0 hidden)
TimeCube bothers me. (none / 0) (#5)
by EntropicOrder on Mon Jul 1st, 2002 at 08:42:02 AM PDT
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I have just recently stumbled upon TimeCube and I am very saddened by this whole idea and the reaction of people to it.

It needs to be known that Mr. Ray's teachings are that of redundancy, influencing and coercion (the very same which he professes the "evil institution" uses), and scientific jargon which supposedly makes up "incontrovertible proof."  These are the tools of brainwashing, which I see happening here, and very much offends me as an open-minded individual.

Mr. Ray is a leader who claims to be enlightened and who uses persuasive tricks.  There are people who are less than confident in themselves or their ideas in one way or another.  These people may also not be as knowledgeable in spotting brainwashing techniques, and are most vulnerable to it.  These people may also feel a lack of belonging, and find groups such as this one comforting when their families and friends do not provide such comfort.

A lot of the statements made to supposedly support TimeCube (from http://cubarian.com/) are scientific, yet do not support the actual theory. Also, the theory itself is based on ideas of the man made convention of time, and not the scientific concept of the passage of time!

Mr. Ray asks for disproof of his theory, but even if proof (or anything remotely close to proof for that matter) was presented before him, he would deny those as being "the evil Word from the evil institution."  Answer this Mr. Ray, if Word is supposedly evil, then how do I know your Word isn't evil too?  Also, this is a technique used in many religions.  For instance, Christianity's answer to any given logical paradox is "God works in mysterious ways" or "God is above all understanding."  This persuasive trick is called a logical circle or a logic trap.

And honestly, what makes TimeCube information so important that it determines if a person is evil or enlightened?  If it is indeed just a scientific theory as they claim, then it really shouldn't make anyone else any less of a person just because they possibly aren't aware of one fact yet!  Mr. Ray has used the persuasive trick of lowering his readers' confidence in their own knowledge in order to spread his teachings.

I will gladly debate every point he has made with him.  I sent him an email and I eagerly await his response to see how he defends his position (which will most likely be that I am evil and ignorant and I am incorrect because all knowledge, excluding TimeCube, is incorrect).

I just hope that everyone can learn to be better critical thinkers, and would realize the flaws in the teachings of Gene Ray.  I must say that it truly saddens me to see people fall
for these persuasive tricks.  What saddens me the most is that Mr. Ray has actually gotten as far as he has.



Here Here! (none / 0) (#7)
by MonkeeSage on Tue Aug 13th, 2002 at 01:22:04 AM PDT
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EntropicOrder: You have brought up some very good points about Mr. Ray's tactics, and I agree with your assessment. I believe that Mr. Ray should be avoided by everyone, of all persuasions, everywhere. Given my religious background, the first words that came to my mind after reading Ray's stuff was "Cult leader"--and I haven't see anything to persuade me otherwise. Mr. Ray is a dangerous, mentally oppressive, and completely inconsistant, cultist; to put the matter bluntly. This is not the type of person you want "educating" you or anyone else about anything!!! My two cents worth... P.S. If Mr. Ray won't debate you or whatever reason, I will be more than happy to engage him or anyone who represents his "Cubian cult" in a formal, written debate (the moderator of this forum has access to my email from when I signed up, if someone wants to arrange a debate). -J S.D.G

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