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Time Cube: A Gene Ray Interview | 8 comments (8 topical, editorial, 0 hidden)

The "Wisest Man who Ever Lived" was on v (none / 0) (#6)
by MonkeeSage on Tue Aug 13th, 2002 at 12:03:57 AM PDT
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What do I mean? Well, to put it simply; I mean that whoever or whatever this (Dr.?) Gene Ray fellow is, he is not the "wisest man who ever lived."

What we get from Ray seems to be the same type of wisdom we find in the "wise" man who spoke these words: "The man who knows does not speak, the man who speaks does not know."

The "wisdom" of self-referential paradox--which is no wisdom at all, but is the epitome of absurdity. One doesn't need to go to any evil institutions to see the plain fact--that when it is the case that a position, if true, contradicts itself, then that position cannot possibly be true.

Even allowing that Dr. Ray is the "wisest man who ever lived," it takes but a child to see that the king has no clothes; and on that note, we turn to the issues.

.: Two Problems On "Timecube" Theory:.

There are two main considerations that will discredit Ray's claim to being the "Wisest Man who Ever Lived," beyond all doubt.

The first consideration is this; we find ray saying on his site Timecube.com:

" There is no teacher on Earth qualified to teach Nature's Harmonic Simultaneous 4- Day Rotating Time Cube Creation Principle, and therefore, there is no teacher on Earth worthy of being called a certified teacher. "

This is in keeping with his constant claim that:

" You think self, you are evil. "

" Students are really stupid, without Cubic life wisdom, and yellow belly cowards. "

" YOU were educated EVIL, & too damn dumb to know about Time Cube Creation. " (idem.).

This poses the first problem for Mr. (Dr.?) Ray:

In the form of syllogism:

1. We are stupid, dumb and ignorant apart from this abstract "Cubic" wisdom--so much so that none can even grasp the concept of "Timecube" or teach it to another.

2. We must grasp this concept (as taught by Ray) so that we can cease being stupid, dumb and ignorant.

3. Therefore; since it is impossible for us to grasp it and yet we must grasp it; we either a.) must always remain stupid, dumb and ignorant, including Ray, or b.) we must use some other method than "Cubic" wisdom to learn and teach "Cubic" wisdom, in which case (1') is incorrect.

Either Ray is a liar when he claims to know or teach anything about Cubic wisdom (and 1' is true), or he is wrong about (1'). In either case, he is not the "wisest man who ever lived."

The second consideration is this; we find Ray saying on his site:

" Educators are "damn liars", and most evil of all animals. They do not deny the charge of being evil word bastards. "

" Word is evil empowerment, separating man from nature. "

" Word is not Real nor Truth, but deadly virus of humanity, transmitted through language. " (idem., emphasis in original).

This idea is echoed over and over and is seen to be the main drive of cubism. It also becomes its Achilles heel.

He says:

" Word is unnatural and must be taught to enslave dummies. Languages have deadly virus that will destroy the educated. " (Notice also the implicit claim that Ray, or at least someone qualified to teach "Cubic" wisdom, can "educate" you--against his own claims above).

" Word is counterfeit & fiction. People can live without word, and cubeless word is a poison that destroys all civilizations. " (idem.).

Here Mr. (Dr.?) Ray has hit upon the same error Wittgenstein did at the end of his Tractatus Logico-Philosophicus (6.54), where he says:

" My propositions are elucidated in this way: he who understands me finally recognizes them as senseless, when he has climbed out through them, on them, over them. (He must so to speak throw away the ladder, after he has climbed up on it.) "

In the form of syllogism:

1. Word that is void of "Cubic" wisdom is evil and destructive.

2. Mr. (Dr.?) Ray speaks non-"Cubic" word (exempli gratia: the interview above, where he speaks in regular English).

3. Therefore; since non-"Cubic" word is evil, and Ray uses non-"Cubic" word, either a.) Ray is evil and destructive and has no "Cubic" wisdom, or b.) Ray is wrong about his major premise (1'), yet again!

Either Ray is evil and destructive when he uses word (and 1' is true), or he is wrong about (1'). In either case, he is not the "wisest man who ever lived."

.: Conclusion :.

Given our two considerations above and the overall tenor of Mr. (Dr.?) Ray's claims, anyone with eyes and a brain (no "special" knowledge required!) should be able to see that he is little more than a tired old man with delusions of grandeur.

In any case, he is not the "wisest man who ever lived",

Quod Et Demonstrandum.

-Jordan

S.D.G

More silliness on the WMWEL... (none / 0) (#8)
by MonkeeSage on Tue Aug 13th, 2002 at 10:29:17 AM PDT
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Having noted that Mr. Ray is not the WMWEL (Wisest Man Who Ever Lived), and demonstrated some basic tensions in his "apologetic" (if it will bare to be called that), we should still ask ourselves if he may possibly have a point about the whole 4-day reconing of time, to avoid the genetic fallacy.

As EntropicOrder has pointed out, Mr. Ray's theorum deals with the accounting of time--not with with temporality / metebolisis as an ontological entity. It is in just this respect a metaphysical theorum regarding the justification of our knowledge. It is therefore encumbant upon Mr. Ray to demonstrate why his measurment theorum is better than any other, and even necessary to true knowledge of the universe and ourselves--why it is normative and not descriptive.

It seems that Mr. Ray is either incapable of, or unwilling to make, such a demonstration. In place he offers insult and self-refuting smoke blowing tactics (see above post).

...In fact, given Mr. Ray's approach, anyone can posit a theorum that will completely negate Ray's Cubism: viz.,-- The Time Octacorner!

I am wiser than the WMWEL! or any scientist, for I have Octaled the circle and Octalized the Earth's sphere, thus I have created 8 simultaneous separate 12 hour days within a 8-cornered (as in a 8-cornered cube) rotation of Earth. See for yourself the absolute proof.

Everything created within the universe has a front, back and left, right in between, a top and bottom, and an inside and an outside.

Check your Octacorner like bedroom. It has 8 corners and 4 walls between top and bottom, and a ceiling and a floor as well as an inside and an outside. Time is not vertical, as it rotates 8 corners.

The human form has a front, back and left and right in between a top of the head and bottom of the feet, plus an outside and an inside - Octacorner like.

* 12 hours in midnight to midnight-noon.
* 12 hours in sunup to sunup-sundown...........
* 12 hours in midday to midday-midnight.....
* 12 hours in sundown to sundown-sunup.
* 12 hours in midnight1 to midnight1-noon1
* 12 hours in sunup1 to sunup1-sundown1
* 12 hours in midday1 to midday1-midnight2
* 12 hours in sundown1 to sundown1-sunup2
* 8 daysin only 1 Earth rotation...
* 8 simultaneous years of the seasons.
* No 4 days within 96 hours.
* 8 different directions in clockwise.
* 3 days lost to academic stupidity.

There are 8 simultaneous days (dumb fools claim 4 days) created within a single rotation of Earth. Teaching that Earth has only 1 day in 1 rotation, is adult poison forced on their children, as in the Jonestown mass murder. Octacornerless academia = armageddon and a barren Earth for children.

Ignoring Time Octacorner is Evil.

Until Mr. Ray can actually formulate some type of real argumentation for his position, it would seem that his requesting a debate and a public platform is rather silly, as anyone can posit a competing hypothesis, such as the Time Octacorner, and as it stands Mr. Ray is reduced to fideism.

-J

S.D.G

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