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Christians Suck More and More | 30 comments (30 topical, editorial, 0 hidden)
You're Kidding Yourselves... (none / 0) (#6)
by King Dinosaur (KingD@Hailtotheking.com) on Mon Nov 18th, 2002 at 04:10:53 PM PDT
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Would that grain of salt still be taken if I were to title an entry, "Buddhists Suck", or "Wiccans Suck". This is a malicious entry, and no amount of couching it in terms of "satire" or "take it with a grain of salt" can change that.

I think it's pathetic that a handfull of prominent shysters and hate-mongers can make people so scared and angry that a huge majority of decent, low-profile people have to take this kind of shit. The term "Christian" is applied to so many people who don't follow and don't understand (or care to) the teachings of Christ. These people who infiltrate the government and try to make you live your life the way they see fit, are not true Christians. Neither is anyone who practices hatred...of anybody. Yeah, it's annoying when somebody tries to tell you about their religious beliefs in the hopes of converting you - but please, annoyance is no reason for blatant hatred and discrimination. And that's what this kind of stuff is, you supposed open-minded people - this is an entry full of hate and fear. The other side of the coin, as it were.

I can't tolerate this kind of story be it against Christians, Jews, Islam...whatever (and if any of you are thinking about the Satanism thing I commented on a while back, I really hope you read all my following comments on that topic).

I was brought up in a Christian household, and although I don't practice what I consider the true spirit of Christianity, I know a lot of truly decent, likeable, caring, considerate, and accepting people who do. On behalf of those people - consider me offended.


"It ain't no broken." - Scott Taylor



OK.... those are good points. (none / 0) (#7)
by Paul Shrug (paulshrug@YourSadCareerAsASpammer.gmail.com) on Mon Nov 18th, 2002 at 05:20:56 PM PDT
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Mea culpa... Sometimes I think we take for granted that when we say "Christian" here, everybody knows we're actually saying "the Christian right" or "fundamentalist Christians." Obviously, though, it's not safe to make that assumption.

True, maybe a lot of people here are inherently non-Christian in the sense that they reject the mythology of the Bible, or have simply ascribed to another philosophy, if any. And by naming our site what it is I guess we tend to have this little in-joke where we position ourselves, at least in subtext, against the guy with the crown of thorns, or more speficially, the bloated right-wingers who use Christ's words as excuses to control or lambast others. You're right, they aren't Christian.

Jesus was, as King Missile pointed out, indeed way cool, and lots of believers out there reflect that without turning him into a Nazi the way Pat Robertson does.

At least I'll try to be more specific about my targets. Apologies for the offense.

--Shrug
Now Doing Weddings And Irony
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That's All I'm Sayin'... (none / 0) (#8)
by King Dinosaur (KingD@Hailtotheking.com) on Mon Nov 18th, 2002 at 05:42:02 PM PDT
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Thanks, Paul.


"It ain't no broken." - Scott Taylor
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No problem, buddy (none / 0) (#10)
by Paul Shrug (paulshrug@YourSadCareerAsASpammer.gmail.com) on Mon Nov 18th, 2002 at 06:58:15 PM PDT
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And remember, Satan loves you!

--Shrug
Now Doing Weddings And Irony
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I do... I really do... (none / 0) (#24)
by satan (satan@satanosphere.com) on Tue Nov 19th, 2002 at 01:20:32 PM PDT
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I love you... love to hug you.

Jesus ain't got shit compared to me.
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You certainly sobered me up. (none / 0) (#9)
by Mister Rum n Coke (mdhpiper@hotmail.com) on Mon Nov 18th, 2002 at 06:18:22 PM PDT
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And irregardless of the way I choose to live my life, I can't help but get a little defensive whenever I hear Christianity being slammed (especially Catholicism where I was raised, and over the last couple years I've had to put up with a ton of anti-catholic shit.) Usually the people most vocal about their disdain for religion are those who weren't even affected by it in any way, other than possibly having been bored sitting through a 90 minute service.

But since this site is named Satanosphere we'd be fools to believe that it should be a safeplace for Christian portrayals. For it to not be offensive, however, those who post need to grow a bigger set of balls and be cynical (or downright hateful) against ALL religions. The reason we're not seeing that is because it's cool to bash Christianity, while it's considered racist (or at the mildest, politically incorrect) to bash any other religion.

I mean, for godsake if I were to post what I really think of Sharon's policies I can already tell you what kind of response I'd get. (The biggest argument always tends to be that since I live in Olympia I have no right to have an opinion on current events or the state of the world. That's bullshit.)

The reason South Park is funny (at least in the first couple seasons) is because they fucked over every creed, color, orientation, nationality and what have you. Nothing was sacred, everyone was fair game.


I'm sorry but I have had it! I have never heard of such a Christmas!! Sex... and drugs... an-an-and women being set on fire!
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Yeah (none / 0) (#11)
by Paul Shrug (paulshrug@YourSadCareerAsASpammer.gmail.com) on Mon Nov 18th, 2002 at 07:06:38 PM PDT
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I was thinking, though... the reason South Park does what they do -- and this is, I grant you, a very shaky artistic premise that must be handled with extreme caution if the message is to get dispensed properly -- is to mock the stereotypes being propogated. True, if Trey & Matt didn't try to dispense a real moral message at the end of every episode (the one part of the show where, believe it or not, they really aren't joking, no matter how funny it sounds), then maybe it just might be random, hatefully produced spew. But usually it isn't. At least most of the time, anyway.

This is also called the Howard Stern defense. I can understand it and laugh at it most of the time.

There's really nothing wrong with the absolute core of any religion out there. It's just when you picket Matthew Sheperd funerals with signs that say "God Hates Fags," or ram passenger planes into buildings in the name of your God, that you're wrong.

That said, you never get this problem from the Buddhists.

--Shrug
Now Doing Weddings And Irony
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Oh Yeah? (none / 0) (#12)
by hot blooded (ilovedraculaBUTIHATESPAM@hotmail.com) on Mon Nov 18th, 2002 at 07:35:06 PM PDT
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Ever heard of Aum Shinrikyo?

hb: I'm having a party in my refrigerator and you're invited.
sw: That's so cool!

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Oh, that's right (none / 0) (#15)
by Paul Shrug (paulshrug@YourSadCareerAsASpammer.gmail.com) on Tue Nov 19th, 2002 at 08:08:08 AM PDT
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I remember that now. Well, it took awhile at any rate.

--Shrug
Now Doing Weddings And Irony
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True (none / 0) (#13)
by ZomBfied (poundofflesh@hotmail.com) on Mon Nov 18th, 2002 at 11:35:43 PM PDT
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If it were called "Jews are sucking more and more..." no amount of salt kosher or otherwise would...well you get what I'm saying.

However...ever notice how every Christian says every other kind of Christian is not realy a Chistian.

As though anybody who does anything bad in the name of Christ is suddenly de-facto not a Christian therefor absolving Christianity itself of any responsibility for the acts of it's followers.

Once you see enough bad things (The Dark Ages, the war in Ireland, everything on the Trinity Broadcasting Network, etc. you might start to wonder about the source, or as Christ himself would say, "Judge a tree by it's fruits."

I would further posit that saying "Buhdists suck" or "Wiccans suck" would indeed be more unexcusably inflamatory because Buhdists in fact don't suck and neither do Wiccans. I personally have never had a sucky experience with either especially about their respective religions, but I can't say that about Christians. Buhdists don't ask for money on TV, ban books or write those insipid chick comics and leave them around. Buhdists don't have witch hunts, they don't protest at rock concerts, and I betcha no buhdist ever said, "Aids is Gods way of killing all the fags." The fact is you would have a hard time finding any links for a "Buhdists Suck" story.

We've had Christ shoved down our throats our whole lives and once in a while some of us wanna shove back. Vive le Matt!

On a side note -no offence, Jesus, if you exist, please don't damn my soul, if I have a soul.

Such is the danger of my quest, that in fighting evil I will be corrupted by it.
On that day my soul will submit to the savagery of war.

-ROM
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It's An Offensive Generalization... (none / 0) (#14)
by King Dinosaur (KingD@Hailtotheking.com) on Tue Nov 19th, 2002 at 06:29:48 AM PDT
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And I have, in fact, known some Wiccans who suck abysmally. Self-righteousness in any religion is sucky. I'm sorry people feel that the high-profile defilers of a pretty decent doctrine are "shoving Christ down your throat". I have all kinds of shit shoved down my throat every day - most way more offensive to me than the Christian way of life.

I don't talk about this stuff much because I know most of my friends feel the way you do. I sure don't knock your right to feel that way - but please don't knock mine, either.

'Course, we're still rockin' for Satan, right?


"It ain't no broken." - Scott Taylor
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Just doin my part (none / 0) (#16)
by ZomBfied (poundofflesh@hotmail.com) on Tue Nov 19th, 2002 at 09:21:47 AM PDT
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...as the devil's advocate. Actually I think I know some of those wiccans you're talking about...

I'm more writing to understand and define my own beliefs, rather than knock yours --which when it comes right down to it probably aren't all that different from mine anyhow.

Till our final breath... Mu huh ha ha.

Such is the danger of my quest, that in fighting evil I will be corrupted by it.
On that day my soul will submit to the savagery of war.

-ROM
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Your comment misses the point. (none / 0) (#18)
by theantix (foo [at] no foo for you [dot] com (it's dot com!)) on Tue Nov 19th, 2002 at 09:57:09 AM PDT
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Why shouldn't you be able to able to make fun of a majority group when you are the minority? Consider two scenarios: A person saying "Islam sucks" in America, and a person saying "Islam sucks" in a Mulism country. Which is more offensive? In the first case, when muslims are a tiny majority, it is incredibly insensitive, stupid, and offensive to say that they they suck. Without question.

But to me it's far less offensive when a person in say, Saudia Arabia, would say that Islam sucks. The culture there is dominantly muslim and it's a sign on healthy anti-establishment critical thinking to consider if it sucks or not.

And don't think the comparision is all that different: the president of the USA is an outspoken Christan and has gone so far as to say that athiests aren't even real citizens. Perhaps it would be good to consider whether or not it sucks or not -- even if you disagree.

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